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Posted by Stephen Green  ·  17 June 2004

This is what we're fighting.

Any questions?

(Video courtesy of the American Enterprise Institute.)

Comments

I read the warning. Don't need to see it.

K

Posted by: Ken at June 17, 2004 02:11 PM

I saw a very little bit. Didn't need to see more, though it would be nice if cnnabcnbccbs & al-jazeera would show it.

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2004 02:14 PM

I watched it. I'm sick. Forward this to everyone you know who has whined about the "atrocities" we've commited and let them see the real thing.

Posted by: wineguy at June 17, 2004 02:37 PM

Don't need to see it--I'm already there, more convincing just makes it hard to sleep.

Posted by: Sam Barnes at June 17, 2004 05:29 PM

I watched it.
Averted my gaze for some of it, but it does need to be seen, unfortunately.
I notice a LOT of references to Allah and the Quran for a supposedly secular regime.

This is what we are fighting.
Kidnapping squads of "fedayeen" are currently performing similar atrocities in Iraq today. Don't see much about it in the press, either.

Posted by: j.pickens at June 17, 2004 08:19 PM

People need to see these things, and then keep in mind that TENS OF THOUSANDS have been tortured and murdered by this tyranny, not just these. Fifty today by car bombs.

Posted by: Harry Forbes at June 17, 2004 09:55 PM

Send this over to Michael Moore.

Posted by: syn at June 18, 2004 08:28 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but how do I view the video, that is what program do I use to open it?

Posted by: Paul at June 18, 2004 09:27 AM

It's a Quicktime movie within a Zip compressed file.

Posted by: Rtfm at June 18, 2004 09:51 AM

Well I watched it. Just sick. I've come to the conclusion that the mainstream media in this country is basically a propaganda arm of the democratic party. Their intent is to disinform the public . . . its not an accident. All we can hope for is that more and more citizens get internet access and know where to look for the truth that is hidden from them.

Posted by: Redman at June 18, 2004 10:21 AM

Thank you, Stephen. Every American should see this. I think it's being kept from the public because powerful leftists simply cannot stomach the idea that our enemies are evil -- or even that there is such a thing as evil.

Posted by: Eric Scheie at June 18, 2004 11:24 AM

Bracing.

Useful for restoring perspective.

The interesting subtext to it and Abu Ghraib thing is this: don't videotape or photograph anything you don't want to see on CNN.

Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at June 18, 2004 12:11 PM

I dunno, BRD. Neither this nor the Berg video, I suspect, will get anything close to the level of airplay of the Abu Ghreib photos and videos.

And how often has 9-11 footage been showing on CNN? (Besides this week w/ release of the 9-11 Commission report?)

Posted by: Dean at June 18, 2004 12:23 PM

I doubt it will get 1/100 the air play. But the fundamental point that one doesn't tape what one doesn't want shown is still true.

To rehash it - is despite all the talk and conversation and intellectual awarness of what was going on, this few minutes of video is, by far and away, the most vile thing I've seen in this war.

Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at June 18, 2004 01:41 PM

Yuck. The tounge-cutting made my toes curl.

Posted by: rosignol at June 18, 2004 02:25 PM

Hi,

You say, "we're fighting." Are you in the military? Have you been?

Charles

Posted by: Charles Giacometti at June 19, 2004 11:54 AM

That was the most sickening thing I have ever seen and if it weren't for sites like these to see what the government is hiding from us I wouldnt appreciate America even more. Thank you for getting this out the people.

Posted by: Tiffany B at June 19, 2004 09:24 PM

I would just like to know why the American government feels it necessary to keep these horrible things from us that are happening halfway around the world to not only THEIR people, but our own also.
Yes, SOME things are better left unsaid and unseen, but this is absolutely necessary to understand how volatile and dangerous they are.
This is the most sickening disgusting thing I have ever seen.

Posted by: caitlin at June 20, 2004 02:31 PM

Wake up Michael Moore, Hollywood and all the others who think that we aren't fighting a "just" cause. Saddam and his sons are gone, stay the course America and wipe out the rest of these ruthless cowards.

Posted by: Aaron at June 21, 2004 10:54 PM

Is this something new to anyone? It is well known that Hussein was a brutal bastard. It is also well known that he was financed and armed by the U.S. when it was convenient. There are many such countries around the world inflicted these sort of atrocities against their own citizens, many of which the U.S. still supports. So how do we as people stop those governments? By blowing up the same people that were tortured? This war was wrong..and they way we stop this torture is by stopping the funding that goes to these countries. We should lead by our example..and that example should not be torturing our detainees. When we captured Germans during WWII, we treated them well..and got more crucial information from them then has been aquired during these recent operations. We show the world our greatness by being fair and just.

Posted by: Frank at June 24, 2004 03:42 PM

I am from Australia, and a strong supporter of what our troops are doing overseas. Any person that was against the recent wars is too narrow minded to take a good look at what really goes on in this world, this video surely shows it. Our leaders are not always perfect and have to make decisions based on strategic and humanitairian importances. The US backed Saddam because of the threat posed by the Iranian religious government, how were they to know he would invade Kuwait, gas the Kurds etc. I know that all you Americans out there never would want something like 9/11 to happen again and neither do the Australians. It was only a matter of time til Saddam off loaded some of his WMDs to Al Qaeda and then American leaders would be talking about why they didn't take Saddam out just like they are now with UBL during the Clinton era. Australians will always support the US even though we have our fair share of small minded people being anti-US, the majority of us understand what is really going on. As the new information age expands, so will the credibility of our democratic and free nations. BRAVO to the coalition of the willing.

Posted by: Steve at July 12, 2004 01:38 AM

That was horrific. But that's the reality we're faced with. Does it really have to be aired in the media? Don't they talk about the attrocities commited, or do people really have to see to believe?
But the truly sadder reality is that the war wasn't ever about stopping these acts, if it was then the coalition of the willing wouldn't have left depleted uranium all over Iraq to slowly cause just as much suffering. Or do they need to air pictures of mutated babies too?
The war was about the world's third largest oil reserve. The acts commited under Suddam were just icing on the cake. But they're ingrained in middle eastern culture, and haven't come close to being stopped. They never will so long as western culture performs them too, even if it's a little more impersonal.

Posted by: Jason at August 2, 2004 01:23 AM



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