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Posted by Stephen Green  ·  15 January 2004

Joe Lieberman:

"Yesterday, Wesley Clark attacked me for pointing out his multiple positions on the war in Iraq. It is no longer credible for Wesley Clark to assert that he has always had only one position on the war - being against it. His own testimony before Congress shows otherwise.

"He may think it is 'old-style politics' to point this out, but the only thing old here is a candidate not leveling with the American people. If we want to begin anew and replace George Bush, we need to level with the American people, which is what I have done in this campaign and throughout my career. You may not always agree with me but you will always know where I stand."

I might change my party affiliation to Democrat just to vote for Lieberman this spring. (I changed it from Libertarian to Republican in 2000, to vote against John McCain in that year's primary, and never bothered to change it back.)

Comments

So why'd you vote against McCain? BCRA?

Posted by: Fredrik Nyman at January 15, 2004 03:18 PM

It's too bad that Lieberman did this himself in 2000 to become liberal enough to run with Gore. Selling out one's positions is never a winning proposition in the long run.

Just my theory as to why Joe looks so bored and disinterested and why his campaign has been on life support for the last couple months. When Sharpton and Kucinich are getting more press than you, it's time to pack it in...

Posted by: Mike M at January 15, 2004 03:48 PM

I know a large amount of solid Republicans who don't have any problem saying that they actually like Joe Lieberman.

Too bad he doesn't have much of a chance. Of course maybe that will play out better from him in the end. A crazed leftist party that goes down in flames is going to need someone to throw them a lifeline. I am sure Joe will be there when he is needed. Too bad he will probably have Hillary helping him haul the party back to the middle-left.

Posted by: Fred Radcliffe at January 15, 2004 05:54 PM

Count myself into the category "solid Republicans who don't have any problem saying that they actually like Joe Lieberman."

Nothing remarkable about it; I'm sure there are millions of people like me who are national security hawks and fiscal conservatives. And again, like millions of people, I think that a divided government is the best way to get fiscal sanity.

In any other election, I'd vote for whoever the democrats nominate for president out of sheer disgust with Bush's fiscal record.

But this isn't any election; the overriding issue is national security, and given the present, deranged state of the democratic party, it seems likely they'll nominate someone who, at best, will be even more feckless and naive than Clinton and Carter. Someone unable to see what is at stake in the war, and too beholden to the ANSWER crowd to be able to act forcefully in America's defense no matter what.

So come November, I'll hold my nose and vote for Bush. Hopefully the democrats will have regained some sanity by 2008.

Posted by: Fredrik Nyman at January 15, 2004 06:55 PM

> Hopefully the democrats will have regained some sanity by 2008.

If Bush wins, the dems will nominate HR Clinton in 2008. Is that sanity?

Posted by: Andy Freeman at January 15, 2004 11:16 PM

Steven, don't you even THINK about abandoning the Dubya!!

Don't forget: it takes a good man to drag even those who'd oppose him, kicking and screaming, to the water that slakes their thirst.

Posted by: Geezer at January 16, 2004 12:13 AM

Geezer, read what he wrote.

He wants to vote for Lieberman in the spring. I.E. Primary.

Posted by: Greg D at January 16, 2004 01:40 AM

What's so bad about McCain?

Posted by: b psycho at January 16, 2004 02:51 PM

B: other than the McCain-Feingold First Amendment Cancellation and Incumbent Preservation Act, that is?

Posted by: dave at January 16, 2004 04:02 PM

If Edwards had toned it down a bit playing to "the base" regarding Iraq and his "work vs. wealth" bit, I'd say he's a candidate I could support over Bush. Afterall, for a time he was pretty sane regarding Afganistan/Iraq. He's also the one candidate who can credibly move back towards the middle because, frankly, he hasn't been in public life long enough to contradict himself too badly. SOrt of like GW, actually. The only way Bush loses in 2004 is if he is facing Edwards. And, heck, I'd say the race is even tighter if it comes down to Bush/Cheney vs. Edwards/Lieberman, though I'm not sure Lieberman is a plausible VP candidate this time around.

Posted by: MIkeB at January 16, 2004 06:49 PM

I like Joe, but I would vote against him no matter what the opponent, even the Devil himself, or even Howard Dean. The reason is I like my freedom of speach and Joe is a Tipper Gore censor.

Posted by: madmark at January 17, 2004 07:11 AM

I remember an article from a few years back about changing your party affiliation specifically to vote for the candidate most likely to lose to the candidate from the your preferred party. Given that there's no contest for Pres. on the Republican side, should Bush supporters temporarily register as Democrats, in order to vote for, say, Kucinich or Sharpton?

I'm not advocating that approach, but it's interesting to consider. I doubt sufficient numbers of Republicans would do it to have any real influence.

b psycho: I used to sort of like McCain. Several years back, he initially came across as a decent guy. Remember the earlier McCain/Feingold bill? Perhaps my memory is a bit off on co-sponsorship -- a google search turns up only the current campaing finance debacle. But McCain got a lot of recognition for his efforts against pork-barrel appropriations.

But, when he stuck his nose into the Colorado Amendment 22 (gun-show "loophole") I immediately disliked him. 1) for supporting gun control, and 2) for sticking his nose into Colorado's system. He's an Arizonan -- he has no business trying to influence a Colorado vote.

Posted by: jed at January 18, 2004 01:45 PM

I'm not registered with any party. When is the primary in MI and how do I register? I think I will vote for Dean or write in George W. Bush.

Posted by: aaron at January 19, 2004 09:12 PM



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