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Posted by Stephen Green  ·  22 October 2003

If you're going to take a day off the blog to enjoy the fine weather, it helps ease the conscience to know the site was down, anyway.

Yes, HostingMatters suffered another DoS attack yesterday, thanks probably to an al Qaeda affiliate.

Dan Darling at Winds of Change thinks the two attacks in less than a week are just a taste of things to come:

The fact that they've decided to expand their hacking campaign to war bloggers may mean that their supporters or whatever crude cyber-terrorists are actually working for the organization are testing the waters to see what they can do (let's face it, they can use bloggers as guinea pigs fairly easily without any fear of the authorities) and eliminate what could best be described as their ideological opponents in the process.

Joe Katzman, who runs Winds of Change, sent me the following in an email:

Welcome back to the blogosphere, and congratulations. The enemy took the war to our online homes, and you had the privilege of being there on the firing line.

If the warblogs are a frontline, let's at least be honest -- we're not even a tertiary front. I'm flattered by Joe's thoughts, but it's silly to think that what bloggers do will have any significant impact on the war. Or that DoS attacks on us will, either.

What I do find heartening is this: If al Qaeda-sympathizing hackers are wasting their time on blogs, then they aren't spending their time more "productively" attacking the Pentagon. Or worse.

Comments

There was no "expansion". As announced in the HM forums, today's target was the IP# the target site from last week used to occupy...which merely makes the attackers stupid, since the site in question has been moved off-network and was live in that new location as of yesterday.

Believe it or not, weblogs (particularly warblogs) are still not that important to much of anyone beyond their authors.

Posted by: Sekimori at October 21, 2003 10:38 PM

What Seki said.

Posted by: Stephen Green at October 21, 2003 10:41 PM

Script Kiddies in general are feeling frisky right now. I've had 3 SubSeven trojan attacks tonight from what appear to be three separate IPs. I usually get three or so in a week, tops. And I'm on a dial-up connection!

Thank God for the firewall.

Posted by: J. Wilde at October 22, 2003 01:20 AM

Stephen,

You're much too modest. The internet and blogosphere have totally changed information sharing.

The left can't get away with propaganda the way they used to and it's making them crazy.

We're having fun in here Florida with the DNC refusing to give Florida Democrats "permission" to have a straw vote at their upcoming convention.

As Rush says, the left is much more fun when they're out of power.

Posted by: erp at October 22, 2003 08:05 AM

Stephen, I think that in your last paragraph you missed Dan's point:

' ... are testing the waters to see what they can do'

Also note Lileks today (scroll way down).

Posted by: old maltese at October 22, 2003 09:02 AM

Man, I adore James Lileks, would possibly even take him on as Junior Husband...but, COME ON, that's idle paranoia at best.

Posted by: Sekimori at October 22, 2003 10:13 AM

I submit that any analysis of Arab motivations must include evidence of Arab attitudes. In this case do they look at blogs, and their efficacy, the same way we do? If so, then from what base of knowledge and experience? If not, then does that fact affect the argument?

An Arab proverb (really) says:

"Strike the head of the snake with the hand of your enemy"

Posted by: Stephen at October 22, 2003 11:05 AM

I dunno, Seki. Yeah, maybe it's just paranoia. But the hairs on the back of my neck stirred a little yesterday, when it happened again. And then it happened again today.

Maybe they are just wasting their time. But a little success breeds confidence. And if they're just testing the waters, who knows what direction they are going in next.

What if the major financial institutions got wacked one day? No, it wouldn't shut down the exchanges, but an awful lot of day trades would get cut off. Just as an example.

Rantings of a lunatic? Surely! ;) But even the crazy ones are right once in a while....

-greg

Posted by: Greg Hill at October 22, 2003 01:40 PM

One thing I have tried to stress over and over again is that if this was carried out by members of the As-Sahwah forum, these guys are not al-Qaeda, they are the organization's "groupies" for lack of a better term.

More to the point, the target was hardly "warbloggers" in general, it was likely directed against one or two websites that happened use Hosting Matters, sites like Haganah (which was one of the main targets, per Aaron and Johnathan Galt, two online experts in this particular area) that had proven to be obstructions to the dissemination of al-Qaeda propaganda by informing Western ISPs what the Arabic on these websites actually said. All of the other websites that got taken down when Hosting Matters got nailed was simply an added convenience.

More to the point, if any one thinks that from a Salafist mentality there is any difference between Talkleft or a Winds of Change user they are deluding themselves. The pretty ideological distinctions that we ascribe to ourselves matter about as much to these folks as the difference between a Deobandi, a Khomeinist, and a Takfiri do to us, so there would be no reason for them to differentiate as far as the collateral damage from such a DOS attack goes.

Posted by: Dan Darling at October 22, 2003 09:55 PM

Pardon me if that sounds like a complete reversal of your original posting...

The fact that they've decided to expand their hacking campaign to war bloggers...

It is not fact, it is uninformed speculation.

Posted by: Sekimori at October 23, 2003 12:30 AM



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