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Posted by Stephen Green · 6 February 2003
I just couldn't resist. UPDATE: The problem with stuff you find in your inbox is, you have no clue where it came from orginally. Thanks to another email, I've been informed it's from Flashbunny -- a place with lots of fun images just like this one Comments
This and many other gem are at http://www.flashbunny.org Posted by: BigFire at February 6, 2003 09:59 AMIt's almost evil to post something so funny when your readers might be innocently taking a sip of coffee. Posted by: Dave Roberts at February 6, 2003 10:09 AMI figure they carry advertisements for the "Ultimate Surrender" video game. Posted by: Laurence Simon at February 6, 2003 10:20 AMNo recipe for cheese? Posted by: Ken Summers at February 7, 2003 06:43 AMThought bubble above pictured soldier's head: "Jerry Lewis would know what to do..." Posted by: Eric Brelsford at February 7, 2003 07:02 AMIt seems like the last couple of days Americans have gotten into an old hobby of mine and many fellow Europeans: bashing the French for their misplaced arrogance and sense of moral superiority. However, being a scholar of UN politics I also know that French resistance to U.S. plans to achieve its national interests through the UN (let's face it) can be managed. This needs to be done by throwing bones, not by calling them irrelevant. This administration understands one essential thing about getting UN approval, making a credible threat not to go through to the UN, but not the other essential thing: making it worthwhile for UNSC members to play along with it. The French government has little to gain from using its veto, except scoring some domestic points. But as it stands right now it has even less to gain from doing otherwise. It would be wise for the current Administration to take a more pragmatic attitude towards the French. Posted by: Erik Voeten at February 7, 2003 07:18 AMLOL! Erik, you assume that it is in the U.S. interest to care one way or another what France does. It is not. France is a third-rate former power that doesn't have anything the U.S. needs. It is earnestly to be wished that they will use their veto in the Security Council, thus futher plunging that body into irrelvance. THAT serves the U.s. interest. Posted by: Spoons at February 7, 2003 07:34 AMWonder who would surrender first if the French Military ran into the Iraqi Republican Guard? Posted by: robert at February 7, 2003 07:56 AMPerhaps the real center of French culture is in Quebec. Posted by: Pete Sandel at February 7, 2003 07:57 AMScrew giving France anything. Lovely country to visit and dine in, but it's not a world power. Arguably it's part of a world power, so maybe the EU ought to get France's permanent SC seat-- although equal consideration ought to be given to one for, say, India. (Funny how it's the multicultural-left crowd who want us to be sure and get the approval of a anachronistic body of Nordic white ex-colonial powers before doing anything in the world.) In any case, it would be a splendid debate to have following the Iraq war-- who if anybody besides the US really ought to have a permanent SC seat? Or does it make any sense at all? Posted by: Mike G at February 7, 2003 07:57 AMTo whom shall they surrender. Their favorite captors, Die Deutsche Truppen, aren't allowed to take prisoners. Posted by: Ed Poinsett at February 7, 2003 08:04 AM"Many of you men have never opened Chardonnay under fire." Posted by: Clint at February 7, 2003 08:10 AMI recommend the magazine include a book review of The White Flag Principle: How to Lose a War (and Why). While the book was written in 1974, it's full of timeless information on how to surrender that would prove useful to today's French soldier. I have a copy of the book. It's a pretty funny satire, on the order of "The Mouse that Roared". The movie is better, but the book is pretty good, too. Posted by: Larry J at February 7, 2003 08:12 AMWell, throwing bones, or anything else, really, at the French certainly sounds like a good idea. Posted by: mikeski at February 7, 2003 08:20 AM"Chardonnay under fire"..... too damned funny!!!!! Posted by: Clay at February 7, 2003 09:36 AMDudes, your tail-feathers are showing! You make fun of France for losing to the Nazis. It's pretty obvious that without U.S. help, the UK would have fallen too. Would you make fun of the U.S. for losing in Viet Nam? Or Reagan for bugging out of Lebanon after the terrorist bombing? Have fun with your video games while others do the fighting . . . Posted by: Max Sawicky at February 7, 2003 09:44 AMFrom the Village Voice in '83 - "A Thousand and One Reasons to Hate the French": Only a nation convinced of Jerry Lewis' genius could build nuclear reactors for Iraq Posted by: Andrew MacGowan at February 7, 2003 09:57 AMMax Sawicky writes: "You make fun of France for losing to the Nazis. It's pretty obvious that without U.S. help, the UK would have fallen too." The UK might have been beaten, but they wouldn't have surrendered as France did. That's the difference. To be fair, a number of other European countries had the same problem: elites who surrendered early on because they lacked the stomach to fight and, at any rate, didn't really mind the Nazis that much. Some things, apparently, don't change. Posted by: Glenn Reynolds at February 7, 2003 10:17 AMIn the antispam newsgroup a common practice is too preface certain postings with "C&C". That means "Cats & Coffee", a warning that you should take precautions before reading the post. Failure to include this when necessary often results in demands for medical care and replacement keyboards. Next time, please include the C&C, please. "You make fun of France for losing to the Nazis. It's pretty obvious that without U.S. help, the UK would have fallen too." Really? Stick to your snails, frog lover. The Anglosphere is in charge now. Posted by: Glenn Crawford at February 7, 2003 10:40 AMChurchill roolz, OK? So which is less relevant: France or Canada? Winner of that bracket faces the winner of Germany-East Timor battle of the meaningless Posted by: Don at February 7, 2003 10:56 AMFor a brief history on how France has done in war: http://silflayhraka.blogspot.com/2003_01_19_silflayhraka_archive.html#90229835 Surrender is the best option Posted by: wc at February 7, 2003 11:48 AMChurchill made the "some chicken, some neck" comments in a speech he delivered in Canada in December 1941. Immediately after delivering the speech, he posed for Yousef Karsh's famous "scowling lion" photograph which has become the most recognizable image of WSC. JD Morelock PS Screw the French... Posted by: JD Morelock at February 7, 2003 12:08 PM"You make fun of France for losing to the Nazis. It's pretty obvious that without U.S. help, the UK would have fallen too." Right, Max. UK was on the verge of surrendering. "Would you make fun of the U.S. for losing in Viet Nam?" We didn't lose. We quit. The prevailing assumption that the war in Viet Nam was immoral, mistaken and unwinnable is hogwash. "Have fun with your video games while others do the fighting . . ." Each generation in its turn. I did mine. Have you done yours? Rather pure hypocrisy if you haven't, eh? Posted by: Larry L at February 7, 2003 12:22 PMMax Sawicky states: "You make fun of France for losing to the Nazis. It's pretty obvious that without U.S. help, the UK would have fallen too." As the resident expert on World War II history, I'm sure that Max is aware that the the Battle of Britain was fought between July and November 1940, more than a year before U.S. entry into the war and well before the inception of Lend/Lease. As the resident expert, I'm sure that Max is also aware that with British victory in the Battle of Britain, the Germans were forced to abandon their plans for Operation Sea Lion (a planned invasion of Britain). In short, Max, BZZZT! Wrong answer, please try again... Posted by: Bill at February 7, 2003 01:15 PMDon writes: So which is less relevant: France or Canada? France is much less relevant to the US than Canada. I might not like their attitude to us or President Bush, but Canada is a pretty important country to the US. For example, believe it or not, Canada is the single largest supplier of oil to the US in the world (yes, bigger than Saudi Arabia). Can anyone name one critical resource, commodity, or item that France exports to the US? Right. I thought not. Posted by: Sam at February 7, 2003 02:13 PM"I'm sure that Max is aware that the the Battle of Britain was fought between July and November 1940, more than a year before U.S. entry into the war and well before the inception of Lend/Lease." And I'm sure self-annointed WW2 expert Bill realizes taht without the Lend/Lease program, Britain would not have had the resources to fight off the Nazis. So in essence, Britain won with U.S. help. My previous comment was not meant to degrade the bravery and sacrifices of the RAF in any way. U.S. equipment may have helped, but British blood was the deciding factor. Kent oui all juste get a longue? Posted by: Marcel Roby at February 7, 2003 02:37 PMObviously, Rossz didn't pay careful attention to my post. As I pointed out, the Battle of Britain was, in fact, over by the time the Lend-Lease Act of 1941 had been passed by Congress. No offense, Rossz, but its a common misconception that we "bailed out" the Brits. The rest of Europe, sure, but the Brits had pretty much secured themselves before that. Posted by: Bill at February 7, 2003 03:10 PMCan anyone name one critical resource, commodity, or item that France exports to the US? Pictures of Latita Casta. ;-) Posted by: rosignol at February 7, 2003 03:11 PM"So which is less relevant: France or Canada?" Definitely France. Keep in mind that NORAD is jointly run by both US and Canada, aka "Our Suburb in the North". Posted by: Kathleen Simpson at February 7, 2003 07:21 PMHA! The Biton's fought like hell and NEVER backed down. The same cannot be said about the French; minus the resistance. Can anyone name one critical resource, commodity, or item that France exports to the US?
I bet the tough guys posting here have only ever been in a fight for a reservation in a good French restaurant. Posted by: Bob at February 7, 2003 09:01 PMThis debate confirms the World War I part of a soldiers' song: Why are they allowed to have weapons of mass destryction? I think a powder puff and some lipgloss is protection enough. Posted by: Dawn at February 8, 2003 09:28 AM
So which is less relevant: France or Canada? Winner of that bracket faces the winner of Germany-East Timor battle of the meaningless France.. the Canadians at least brew good beer :) (and have prettier women ;) very funny! the French always seem to have a hidden agenda when it comes to war (and most things else) please don't forget the US sold chemical weapons to Iraq in the first place, and also put out a contract to kill sadamm and then charged the person responible when he tried... as ever the UK are your best buddies - but please don't push us into something 80% of our public don't want vie le British!! John Posted by: john hampson at February 10, 2003 06:04 AM"Many of you men have never opened Chardonnay under fire." Pure comedy! "You make fun of France for losing to the Nazis..." Yeah, man. They held out for three whole days... and were running very low on cheese. "Can anyone name one critical resource, commodity, or item that France exports to the US?" They did invent mayonaise. We couldn't be the big, gluttonous Americans we are today if it weren't for a half inch thick layer of mayo on our roast beef club sandwiches... Posted by: MacCherry at February 10, 2003 03:09 PMQ: Why are so many streets and roads in France lined with trees? As one who has, under fire, opened several bottles of various varieties, on several continents, I would like to speak briefly on behalf of the French soldier. "Wonder who would surrender first if the French Military ran into the Iraqi Republican Guard" Not possible, since they would both be running away from the battle lines, they would not intersect. Posted by: Z at February 15, 2003 08:21 AMCan you say, "Cheese eating surrender monkeys?" Sure you can. (Merci, Monsieur Rogers, et adieu!) Posted by: Lisa at March 5, 2003 11:10 AMcomment les americains peuvent ils etre aussi stupides en politique? un manque de bon sens evident Posted by: jean claude dus at June 25, 2003 07:19 AMTakes a french men to speak french in an English discussion Posted by: Mark at January 16, 2004 03:34 PMTakes an American to misuse English in an English discussion. Posted by: Raph at April 13, 2004 06:31 AM |
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